I HATE PWI ~vs~ HBCU/HBCU ~vs~ PWI Debates

I was taught I could Hate things not people. So, Hate is the best emotion for this issue. Debating whether a Historically Black College & Universities (HBCU) or Predominantly White Institution (PWI) is right for a black student is one the most loathsome arguments to me. Today, Missouri System President Tim Wolfe resigns amid campus protests, racial tension. I barely read the headline before I saw "They should've went to a HBCU" from a few Black tweople (what I call people on Twitter). I gave my two cents on the whole Mizzou situation including PWI vs HBCU debates on the situation were null and void. HERE. I was not for the troll, today and blame him for this post.

Yes, He gets a Side Eye stamp.

Well, then this Twitter troll told me I was in denial and commence to school me off of One of my tweets. After I told him to go read ALL my tweets on this subject and how saying that the Black Mizzou students "They should've went to a HBCU" was "low key victim blaming", he got quiet or blocked me.

With Football Nerd, a HBCU graduate

I am a Black woman who received her Bachelor's in Family Consumer Sciences with Emphasis in Nutrition from Lamar University, a Predominantly White Institution. I also went to another university & community college (UT-Arlington & El Centro) prior to Lamar and they were PWIs. I am proud of my accomplishments. I am the first 4-year college graduate of all of my maternal grandparent's offsprings. Both my maternal grandparents have siblings, in-laws, & nephews that coincidentally received their Bachelor's degrees at Historically Black College & Universities. Both my grandparents have Associates degrees from HBCUs. My mother went to a PWI. My sister attended an HBCU and PWI. But never in my family's history of debates & discussion were there ever HBCU vs PWI. I was Never told I needed to attend an HBCU until my senior year of high school.

I grew up with this girl, blog name will be Weeble Wobble, who graduated from a HBCU. She was a year older. Weeble Wobble felt like since we hadn't attended an all-black school since elementary, I needed to go to an HBCU. There were only two HBCUs on any of my lists of possible colleges. Those two were Howard University & Tuskegee University. Howard was not financially sound for me and I only wanted to Tuskegee University because the guys I saw during a tour were handsome & fine.

My top 4 choices were PWIs and that is where I applied. One day, Weeble Wobble wanted to visit me at my PWI at the time, the University of Texas at Arlington but I had an organization function. She asked what organization (also one of those people shocked that I do secular activities, I complain about) and I told her NACWC, National Association of Colored Women's Clubs. She said, "Oh I've never heard of that". Now I could've left the statement there, but me taking the jerk road I didn't. I said, "Really? It's the oldest African American secular organization. But UTA is the first college chapter." After that discussion, she never brought up me going to an HBCU. She may not remember the exchange. 

I will Never disrespect an HBCU. I just know that an HBCU would not have benefitted my future. I also will Never know the answer to which is better for the Black student, PWI, or HBCU. I don't think there is a definitive answer. And to tell these Black students at Mizzou hurting because of race that they "should've went to a HBCU" is rude. No matter what race people that say it is gross. I don't care if you use education & finances (like that troll twerson), it is an unnecessary cherry on top of a wound.

I've had racist things happen to me in college. One night a member of the baseball team, who was white banged on my bathroom door and asked did I want some watermelon at 3 am while they were visiting my suitemates, who were also White and on the track team. My suitemates told him to leave my door. He said because I was a black girl should've been interested. I don't even eat watermelon. So, the joke is on him."Should've went to a HBCU" would have not help that or this Mizzou situation.

The Goal, we all are striving to achieve!!!

As the deaconess board at my foundation church says or use to say, "If you can't help, don't hurt"!!!

As Always, Talking to You in Adult Terms

Alright It's Time (Cosby Allegations)

Y'all have noticed it has been some serious topics in the current pop culture headlines I have not spoke about. The Bill Cosby Rape/Drugging Allegations is one of those headlines. I was waiting on a few certain events to happen. Today, I finally heard what I waiting on. So now I will give my two cents.

Yes, like many of us I was shocked when it all first came out. I hate to hear about rape & molestation stories, period. Then to hear Bill Cosby to possibly be involved in these horrendous acts. It make me frown.

The number of women accusing him rises every week. The stories about him being a secretly known philanderer that is quick to unzip his pants in the entertainment industry.

And unlike another accused rapist, Cee-Lo Green (who I have unfanned him liked R. Kelly),  Cosby is being quiet. Except to speak on how his wife (who is kind of vague in speaking about her feeling at this point) is taking it all of this

"Love and the strength of womanhood. Let me say it again, love and the strength of womanhood. And, you could reverse it, the strength of womanhood and love.

and how expects neutrality of the black media.

"I only expect our black media to uphold the standards of excellent journalism. And when you do that, you go in with a neutral mind."

Now, I am also not saying all the women are liars. I will never ask any of these question.

-Why are they saying something decades later?

Because these women (if not lying) are a part of decades of the silent victim era (I made that term up). Victims of rape and other abusive crimes are now encouraged to talk about it now. And some encouragement, people are still asking rape victims disbelieving questions.

-Where is the proof?

Who keeps decades old proof? Again unless there is a film reel of the encounter yet to appear, I doubt any of the alleged victims have proof. And if any of the accusers have a Bill Cosby semen stained item...I leave that alone.

-What are the victims motives?

Maybe to get the truth (if it is) out. Just because a court can't try him, doesn't mean can could be guilty. If he did do these horrendous acts, it needs to be known. At least if it is known, this can be avoided some. People know what to be aware. He offers a lady a drink maybe she needs to decline.

I won't ask any of that. Actually those are a few reasons why people (women & men) don't report rape.

So, what was I waiting on? Bill Cosby prides himself on being charitable to the field of education. I felt like if anything would hurt him the most, would be the day the schools he and his wife give to sever ties because of allegations.

When I saw alma mater, Temple pull away, with the news of his resignation from the Board of Trustees, I knew the proverbial dominos would start to fall. I really had interest in watching for one of the Cosby benefitted HBCUs to pull back. Let's face it, Historically Black Colleges & Universities don't have the funding most public & pricier private schools get. So, if a HBCU cut away even an inch it would scream MAJOR to me. That means they would have to walk away from lot of needed dollars. Money that maybe hard to replace. Money that might shut a department or some departments down. Well, Spelman yelled and I heard them.

The historically black, liberal arts women’s college in Atlanta indefinitely suspended the William and Camille Olivia Hanks Cosby Endowed Professorship, which was funded by a $20 million gift by the Cosbys in 1987.

“The current context prevents us from continuing to meet these objectives fully. Consequently, we will suspend the program until such time that the original goals can again be met.”

Spelman College didn't say whether it would change the name of its academic center, which also bears Cosby’s name. We shall see. I heard that scream and I tweeted about it.

The rapper, Nelly swiped a ATM card down the butt of a female dancer in one of his videos.

The women of Spelman felt that degrading to women. They would not let him have blood marrow drive, in order to find a match for his ailing sister on their campus until they sat down and had a talk. Nelly didn't want to talk and no blood marrow drive was had. If they took a stand on that you know something was going to be done about the Cosby allegations. Spelman had to protect their image. Their value could not be based the money on a possible criminal (if the allegations are true) or a possible philanderer (if they are not true but he had least slept with any if not all the accusers). $20 million dollars is a lot of money to give up. But the principles & standards this college stands for should be worth much more. Spelman has started detachment from the Cosbys, will Morehouse College & Fisk University and others join them? It will be an interesting narrative if they do.

Like I said I don't know what to truly believe at this point. I only want to believe in the truthful facts.

Whether the truth comes out on this or the other side of God's glory, it will come out. As an educated person, it just hurts to see  any higher institutions of learning having to make these kind of decisions. Decisions based on possible vile & vulgar acts towards humanity. I guess no one associated with this case will walk away unscathed.

As Always, Talking to You in Adult Terms